Up In Him
Ireland Convention November 2010
is very encouraging to hear the truths that we are hearing today
when we come together. If you had told us 30 or 40 years ago of
these things, nobody would have believed that these things were
true! Now we find ourselves ministering to each other and witnessing
to things that are taking us into a realm of God that He has orchestrated
for us in His plan from the beginning of the foundation of the world!
want to look at the process God has us in—growing us up to be sons—and
see how it relates to our own individual lives and where we are
now. Probably, the first place you need to have in your understanding
is to recognize where you are today . If you perceive you
are where you are not, then you are never going to go
on to attain that which God has for you.
the president had stood on the battleship and declared victory,
and then the Iraq war went bad, there were Democratic senators in
congress that were saying the ‘war is lost’. They asked a Pentagon
general of the United States, “What do we do now?” He made a very
deep statement: “Any road will get you there if you don’t know where
you are going.” He went on to explain, that in order to fulfill
a plan, you have to know what the plan is, and you have to be willing
to admit where you are.
we perceive that we already have the possession
of the goal that God has in mind for us, we’ll never go on
to get the goal that He has for us. It is amazing at the beginning
of this thing, you can have a president standing and saying, “We
won the victory! We won the battle!” and three years later you are
mired down and asking, “Is there any hope?” It is like the Christian
experience when we first come into the church and get born again
and say, “We’ve got eternal life!” and a couple of years later we
are in this big warfare and battle wondering, “What happened? I
thought we had it all!”
has revealed to us a growth process that He takes us through; for
in the center of all this, He is growing up a son in you and in
me. He is doing it in such a way that it goes through stages of
development and growth; wherein we start out as a baby, grow into
a child, then into a young man and into a Father. So in the book
of 1 John, he says, “I write unto you children, I write unto you
young men, I write unto you fathers”.
is very obvious to us in scripture that when you first come into
this, you are as a babe, desiring the pure ‘milk of the word’. In
every one of those maturing stages, when we look into the natural,
we will see you do not misidentify the difference between a father
and a baby; but somehow, in the spirit, most of the time we see
ourselves a little further down the road that we actually are! So
any road will get us there, if we don’t know where we are going
and we are not willing to admit where we are!
And he gave some, apostles;
and some, prophets; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting
of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of
the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith,
and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto
the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: 14 That we
henceforth be no more children (translated
here as ‘nepios’; ‘babies’) ,
tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine,
by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie
in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow
up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 from
whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that
which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working
in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the
edifying of itself in love. 17 This I say therefore, and testify
in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk,
in the vanity of their mind, 18 having the understanding darkened,
being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that
is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;
of the things we can say that God has blessed us with, is understanding;
He is delivering us from the vanity of our minds to believe that
we have something when there is no evidence at all in the life.
do you know you have what you say you have? How do you know? God
wants to bring us into the awareness that if we are ever going to
get to the end of this thing and be what He wants us to be, we will
have to see ourselves in a process of growth that is manifesting
something that will show us we are what He wants us to be—that is,
confirmation! Every once in a while you get in a community and you
see somebody that can’t get along with anybody—that can’t live with
anybody—they are in constant conflict—“Tell me again; what life
are you living in?”
because of the blindness
of their heart: 19 who being past feeling have given themselves
over to lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
20 But ye have not so learned Christ; 21 if so be that ye have heard
him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22 that
ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which
is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 23 and be renewed in
the spirit of your mind; 24 and that ye put on the new man, which
after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
want to start in verse 13, ‘Till we all come in the unity
of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect
man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:’
He reveals in this passage of scripture is that in the created realm,
God has two men. He has what we call the ‘old man’, which is the
‘Adam’, and we have the ‘new man’ which is called ‘Christ’. Both
of these are men. When we look at them, we realize that both are
created men; the ‘new man’, which is created in righteousness
and holiness, and the ‘old man’, which is corrupt according to deceitful
do you get into these creations? By birth. We are not created
into this world, we are born into the creation.
When we get born into the creation, we do not get born into a creation
that is an immature creation; we do not get born into an immature
Adam and you don’t get born again into an immature Christ. You are
born where you have to grow up to the measure of the fullness
of the stature of that which is already there in the creation; it
is programmed when you first come into this world, into Adam, and
into your parents and families.
have often been asked, “What do you want to be when you grow up?”
Have any of you heard that? My wife asks me that all the time, “What
do you want to be when you grow up?” I think when I get to my deathbed,
she will look at me and say, “Have you figured it out yet?” It is
good to be as a little child.
question is of the late 20 th , 21 st centuries—but that has not
always been the case in the world. You can go back 100 years and
it was predetermined what you were going to be when you
were born into a blacksmith family. In many cases you not only had
the name of the father but what you were going to be, so there were
the Smith’s, the Cooper’s, and Mason’s; names signify a predetermined
end for that “Little Johnny” that comes out of the womb and
comes into this world. It is already all programmed into him what
he is going to be, what he is going to be like when he gets to the
end of that experience; he’s going to come to the fullness of the
measure of the stature of Dad!
grew up with a boy in school and I was not aware that his father
was a surgeon and that his brother was also a surgeon; it was predetermined
he was going to be a surgeon. I did not know that when we
were growing up. My uncle, who was dying of cancer about five years
ago, called me up and said, “You’ll never guess who’s operating
on me; you went to school with him!” He told me who it was and he
said, “Johnny, he’s just a kid!” He was about 45-50 years old and
my uncle said, “He’s just a kid!”
is a path for this little child when he comes out of the womb that
already predetermines what he is going to be; therefore,
the father has in mind for him goals that he has set along
the way, for he knows he is going to be a little baby, then a child.
He knows he is going to be a young man; he knows he will become
a father and it is predetermined . The father has the education
set out for him; he has the governors set out for him; he has all
these different things set out for him.
the process of growth, “Little Johnny” is going to go through times
of adjustment and transition in his life that are going to be meeting
goals, not set by him, but set by the father . He simply
is going to grow into those goals, and it is going to be worked
out in him based upon the goals that were set by the father.
are never going to get me to cut open anybody—dead or alive! The
thought of me taking up a scalpel is not in me; it is not in my
nature! When you look at names, it is really interesting. Any of
you that know me, know I love to fish and I have come to the conclusion
that Basalyga means “fisher of bass”! My grandfather was a great
fisherman, my uncle was a great fisherman; it is something in my
genes. Just try and hold them down from fishing! I shared this at
The Land a couple of years ago, and a Chinese girl there said, “That’s
really what it means?” I can have a tendency to joke every once
in a while, so I will raise my hand when I am joking. The old British
word for “accountant” is “Giles” (spoken as John raised his hand!).
is interesting to see how it works in the natural. There was something
in the minds of those that were giving names. There was a time when
fathers and mothers put a name on a child as a promise
of what that child was going to be. When he came into this world,
there was something in the heart of the father that predetermined,
“I want him to be just like me! I want him to take on my nature
and if he will follow on to know me, he will come into the same
image as me! This process of being born into this world
has its finality when the son becomes just like the father;
just like the seed that brings forth after its kind!
long as you stay in the program— as long as you stay in the
program —and as long as you recognize ‘I am going
on to know Him; not that I have already attained or am already made
perfect’, but He has this process by which He is taking
me on to know Him. As long as you stay in the program
you will get there one day and you will actually come to the point
where you are just like the Father!
was born of Russell Basalyga, a business man, and I became a businessman;
my great-grandfather was a businessman, my grandfather was a businessman;
you get into this, and you realize, “Hey, there’s something there.”
are born into the world—into Adam—and that first birthing is called,
being ‘born of a woman’; the woman is a type of flesh. When scripture
talks about being ‘born of a woman’, there is a hope that we are
born into—‘he that is born of woman is of few days’. So with the
greatest hope that we ever had, we find it ends in death! We are
born with a hope of fulfilling some natural, carnal existence for
a short period of time in the temporal realm.
natural birth was given as an example that when we are birthed from
on high—when we get another birthing—second birth—born again—this
new birthing that God gives us will already be pre-programmed
so that if we go on to know Him, it is already predestined
as to what you are going to be! If you follow on to know Him,
you are going to be exactly like the Father! He is going to work
this thing out as we go through this and the second birthing is
what we call being ‘born of God’.
love the way that God does this, and I love the way that Brother
Buddy puts it, “When we get into the ‘eternal’ we will be ‘born
of God’”. How do you know if you want to be born of God eternally
? How do you know if He never gives you that experience in the
temporal? So, when you were born of the flesh—He gives you your
own life and says, “How do you like it? How would you like to live
your own life for eternity?” That is a choice. The question is,
‘What will a man give for his life?’ The question has not been answered;
we’re in the process of answering this question.
order to get us to a point where we make an accurate decision based
upon our own understanding, He brings a further birthing our way
and He births us into the Spirit ; into a new creation
man; the same way as when a little child comes into this world.
When that little baby opens his eyes, and when he starts seeing,
he has just come into creation and what does he understand and know
about that creation? Nothing. Everything he gets, he is going to
have to be taught; first from the mother, then he will get if from
the father, tutors and governors; all are going to teach him all
along the way.
you get born again into the new creation man, how much do you understand?
Nothing! How much do you “think” you understand? Everything! Now,
the reason why is this: We want to compare it to the measure of
the stature of the natural man that we understand, but what he says
here is that we are growing into the measure
of the stature of Christ. These are two things: stature and measure.
“Stature” is what you are growing up in and “measure” is what God
uses to see if we measure up to Christ. Both Brothers Andrew Giles
and John Jeffreys have pointed this out; that the measure that God
uses to measure this new creation man is called a ‘reed’ .
And he that talked with me
had a golden reed to measure the city. 17 And he measured the wall
thereof, 144 cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is,
of an angel.
Hebrews, Babylonians and the Egyptians each had two separate measurements
for the cubit. The Hebrews simply called them the “larger” and the
“smaller” cubits. The Babylonians called the larger cubit a “royal”
cubit and the smaller cubit a “common” cubit. The common cubit is
the measurement of a man's forearm. The forearm as a measurement
was made up of six handbreadths. The royal cubit is a man’s forearm
plus an extra handbreadth. The reed, which Revelation says is the
measure of a man, was a measurement that was made up of six royal
cubits. Therefore there would be six extra handbreadths or an extra
cubit in the reed. If the reed was made up of common cubits there
would be seven cubits, but it is not, it is only made up of royal
cubits, the measurement of a royal man, Christ. In Christ we have
an extra cubit!
6:27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
is the extra cubit! The question is, “How do we add this extra cubit
to the stature, because we are growing up to the measure of the
stature of Christ , but this one has
a higher standard and can you do this by taking thought?
No! Can you do this with the intellect? No! Can you do it with the
carnal mind? No! Well, how do you get that other cubit added?
Bible answers itself—just keep looking; a little later on God wants
to answer the question for you. First, we need to identify where
that extra cubit came from; the extra cubit came from the measure
that is in Christ! He is raising us up into another measure of Christ,
and it is the measure of a man, but it is not a man like we have
ever seen before. So if you want anything added you must:
6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness;
And all these things shall be added unto you.
you have come into this experience where you are born of God in
this realm; do you already have righteousness? That is a loaded
question. If you already had it, what would you need to seek it
for? In this new creation life—this new creation man—is Christ;
is there righteousness in there? Yes. Is there everything that pertains
to life and godliness in there? Yes. Do you have all the capacity
to be there—in there? Yes. So, if you are ever
going to be truly born of God, you are going to have to start manifesting
when you get started on this road; it is going to start manifesting
out of you, otherwise you will be in delusion, thinking you stand
when you fall, or thinking you have something when you don’t. If
you never manifested the love of God, if you never manifested the
righteousness of Christ – then how do you know you are? Do you know
by the intellect? No! But, that is what some would like you to believe.
I want to look at is how this development and process of our growth
in Christ—this growing up to the measure of the stature of Christ—works
in our life. Someone asked me when I was in Scotland, “We were really
hearing this “third feast truth”; how do you break it down to where
somebody that is just coming to this experience can understand it?”
As I considered this question, God started quickening to me, again,
the way this happens and the way this gets birthed in you as shown
in I John 5. How many believe that Jesus is the Christ? So, if you
believe that Jesus is the Christ, what is the conclusion in I John
John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is
born of God; and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him
also that is begotten of him.
what is this word “believe ” ? Some of us read a book by
Marcus Borg titled, “ Reading the Bible Again For the First
Time ” or “ Meeting Jesus Again For the First Time ”,
and he points out in there that this word “believe”, in the day
when John wrote it, has a different meaning than we understand today.
He goes into the history of the origin of the word to show that
around the time of “The Enlightenment,” the word “believe” changed.
The English word “believe” comes from the German word “belieben”,
which means “to love”. When Jesus and John were talking about believing,
they were not talking about head knowledge; they were
talking about something that takes place in the heart
. When it takes place in the heart, many times, it will by-pass
your intellect and your heart will pick up something in
belief that your mind would never believe! Borg said that
what happened was “The Enlightenment” came, and Darwin started to
teach, and science came up with this concept that unless you could
prove something to be actually true scientifically, then
until it was proven, it was not true! So they brought
the word “believe” out of the realm of believing with the
heart into believing with the head , and
the church bought it “hook, line and sinker” so that they preach
a message saying that all you have to do is, with your carnal intellect,
believe that Jesus died, went to heaven and you have it all now,
and when you get into “the box” on the other side, you go to heaven.
you don’t get born again by just believing with the head ,
because this is not something that you do based upon your desire
to want to know God. This is something He does in you by
touching your heart , and when the heart believes, you
are identifying with the belief that He put within you. The way
He does this, in this born again process—this born of God process—
is the same way in which a woman conceives of child in her womb.
God uses us as a womb to birth His son in us. He comes down into
the inner recesses and we have been begotten by an incorruptible
seed. And who’s seed is that incorruptible seed? It is God’s seed!
He plants that seed in us and it unites with something in our hearts.
order for a woman to get pregnant, you need two things. You have
to have the seed and you have to have the egg. He says the “seed”
is the Word of God—the Seed of God—the same way the Spirit of God
planted that Holy Seed in Mary. The Holy Spirit planted that Seed
in Mary; what was born in her was Holy. When Jesus came into this
world, He was birthed into a new creation man—He was birthed into
it and He had to grow up into the measure of the stature of
that man as well; do you realize that? He grew in wisdom and stature;
stature —He grew in it, as an example to us, that when
this is birthed in you, it brings you into a path that is going
to end up with you being just like the Father, because it started
off with His incorruptible Seed. God has the ability to see those
things that ‘be not as though they were’ . The church
has an uncanny ability to turn it around and call those things that
‘be not as though they are’ ! Did you ever notice
you go into the church realm where they think all you have to do
is believe, and now you are a son of God! It’s in the scriptures;
‘Beloved now we are the sons of God.’ But God has this ability to
call “Little Johnny”, who came out of his mother’s womb, as being
a surgeon when he gets to be the age. The father saw in him—he was
able to call those things that be not as though they were, even
though he was “not yet that”. Who is going to suggest that a five-year-old
surgeon to be, could “surgeon” anybody? So, even though you are
not , you are ! But it does not yet appear
what we shall be for we are going through this process
of growth, and He comes into our hearts and He plants His seed in
says, ‘Because you ARE sons, God has sent forth
His Spirit in your hearts.’ Did you ever read that? Do
you know the way the church teaches it? “In order to become sons,
you need to get born again.” If at any point along this way, we
think that we, by our intellect, are accomplishing this, God wants
to show us right away that He is the Author and He
is the Finisher! When we believe, we are identifying with
something that He started in us, not in order to make
us that, but because we are ! We used to call that
‘the glint in your parents eyes’—it is the ‘glint in God’s eye.’
4:6 Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit
of his Son into your hearts, crying Abba, Father.
because we are sons , right? Now, because you are
sons, in order to get that awareness of what you are, He has to
birth that life within you. When He births that life within you,
out of you, for the first time, comes “Abba, Father”. Where did
that come from? Was that you? No, that’s the Spirit of God identifying
now that you are His sons; so it is the Spirit that bears
witness. Now, when that Spirit comes, wherever you were, as it was
with me, the Eternal God is coming out of the eternal heavens and
He is coming in to touch my life and coming in to touch my heart!
Chambers says, “This idea that your first
response to God is because of conviction of sin is pseudo-evangelism.”
He goes on to say that no one ever comes to God for forgiveness
of sins, they come to God because the Spirit of God came in and
united with their spirit and all of a sudden, they identified that
the Eternal God came out of the eternal heavens and identified with
you, and you cried, “Abba, Father!” You didn’t have any idea of
what sin was, or the plan of redemption!
is walking along the sea of Galilee and John, James, Peter and Andrew,
who are all standing there, had no idea of what sanctification was,
redemption was, what any of those things were; and all of a sudden,
the Eternal God is coming out of the eternal heavens and these men
were fishing—they had purpose in that—and here comes out of the
heavens, not explaining Romans or Corinthians—not explaining any
of that—there weren’t any books of Romans or Corinthians; they didn’t
understand—and Jesus said, “Come and follow Me”! Immediately, something
inside their hearts jumped and leaped, the same way it did with
Elizabeth! The Eternal God came out of the eternal heavens to birth
new life in me; it put me in a new creation life to start me on
a way, and all of a sudden , when I had this new life leap
inside of me—as it says, ‘he that believeth, hath the witness in
is the same way with a woman, when she conceives a child. The first
conception is typed with that which is ‘born of water’; as when
a woman conceives a child, the child is born “in water”. At that
point, when you are first born again and that Seed is ‘born of God’
in you, there is no manifestation coming out of your body
at all— nothing ! But, eventually it will. When that first
happens, you are the only one that knows it – so I am told. Sometimes,
when you unveil it to your husband, he’s shocked.
starts you out that way; there is a literal baby in there that has
just been birthed—that Christ has been birthed into a new creation—a
mature, new creation man. As that starts unveiling itself—as it
starts coming out—it is going to start growing up to the measure
of the stature of that Man, and it is going to be manifesting a
nature in it, that you did not have in your previous man—in
the first birthing that you had into creation. That first man that
we have does not have the nature or the character of love in it—the
love of God. The love that you have is so limited; if it is anything
at all, it is just “love of self”! When we are measured by the natural
man, we are deceived into thinking that we will actually do things
like to say, “When I got married, I loved my wife”; the fact of
the matter is, I got married was not because I loved my
wife ; the reason I got married was because I loved myself
. We can’t measure this thing by the standard of the natural
you know the difference between when you intellectually
know you want something and you believe you want something
and it “hits” your heart? Do you know the difference between the
two? I think every young lad goes through this when he’s coming
up through the grades; I remember that in the 7 th through 10 th
grades—how many girls do you fall in love with, ‘by the seeing of
the eye’, before you get out of high school? All of them! (‘Confession
is made unto salvation’ - and girls, don’t listen to this; you don’t
want to hear this.) Somehow we have the ability to be totally enamored
with a girl, and two days later we just threw them away and we say,
“Oh, look at that one over there!”
is where you are looking with the carnal mind and you are believing
that in order for me to get married, I have to
have her . You believe that! And then one
day—across a crowded room, some enchanted evening—here comes “that
one” and all of a sudden, it does not go to the head, it goes right
to the heart! When I fell in love with my wife, my experience was
that all of a sudden, something hit my heart that had not previously
hit my brain. If I allowed my brain to think about it long enough,
I would just say, “Love is blind”, because now I am loving with
the heart; believing with the heart; actually wanting that one with
my heart. We can understand this growth process, both in the natural
and in the spiritual.
often look at somebody on graduation day; they have just gone through
12 years of school and you get this impression that this is a great
accomplishment of coming to the point where they graduated. The
fact is, it was predestined that you would do that and you were
just growing up into that, and what really needs to change,
is not the stature of the individual as much as the measure
of the stature, which goes with the change of mindset, or
the renewing of the mind.
you have, at the age of 18 when you graduate from high school, the
mindset of a five-year-old, even though you have grown in the stature,
if you don’t come to the measure of that, then you may
have all of the attributes of somebody that is mature, but you are
20 going on 5! Do you know how sad it is never to come into the
measure of the stature of the position that you are in?
That is why Paul says, “I come to you and you should be teachers;
you should be further along on this way! You should be mature and
I still have to speak to you as babes!” This is because the
growth process never took place in the renewing of the mind .
We read in Ephesians that if we are going to take off one and put
on another, there has to come a change in the renewing
of the mind ! It’s in the renewing of this mind of Christ that
He has given us that actually gets us to understand this process
that He is taking us through; it is the same way in the natural.
Every time you go into the next stage of growth, it is a very uncomfortable
you start off and the work is all being done inside. The next step
of being ‘born of God’ is you are born of the Spirit. The child
in the womb is born of water and when that child comes through the
birth canal and breathes the “pneuma”, the type now is that he is
born of water and spirit. In order to enter into this natural experience,
you cannot just simply be born of water in the woman. He says that
in the Spirit, when you are born of water you get to see
another life that you never saw before, but in order to enter
into that life, you must be born of the Spirit, as when a
child comes through the birthing canal and breathes air; now the
child is born of water and spirit.
he comes into a realm where, as a child, he will suck on the ‘sincere
milk of the word’ and he will get that from the “mother” that birthed
him. So every one of us, when we get born into this thing, we get
born unto a “mother” that was there as a tutor and a governor to
start putting into us spiritual truths given by the ‘milk of the
word’. So Paul says, ‘Whenever I am feeding you, I am feeding you
with the milk of the word.’ Whenever you have any external ministry
teaching you, you are coming under the teaching of “Mom”, who can
only give you the ‘milk of the word’; that is all she can
give you; that is all I can give you. If that ever turns into meat
for you, it is because now you have come into contact with the Father.
is a growing up process so that when you first come into this experience,
you have a love now that is within you, that is called ‘the love
of God’; that is something we do not understand if we try to compare
it with the natural man, for this love of God does not ‘seek its
own’. The little baby that comes into this world is only seeking
one thing, and one thing only—‘its own’. It comes into this experience
where it believes that the whole experience of being born again
in God was completely all for me ! “ I’ve
got eternal life! I am eternally saved!
Look what God did for me , isn’t He great!”
After all, isn’t “Mom” telling you that—how great you are? And every
time you cry, “Mom” is there; and every time you need something,
“Mom” is there.
first experience with the church is that we come to church
to get our needs met , for we have not yet grown up into
a measure in which there is a growth taking place in us, where He
is giving us something that can supply. So our first growth is with
“Mom” and as we start on this road as little babies, one of the
things we need to learn to do is to ‘love one another—and to sin
you ever notice that when John is writing in I John, he doesn’t
write unto the young men to ‘sin not’; he doesn’t write unto the
fathers to ‘sin not’; but he says, ‘I write unto you little children
that you sin not and that you love one another.’ So the first known
witness to the world, that you actually have a change of creation
life in you, is when you love one another .
you know you have passed from death unto life because I said, “Yes,
I do,” at the Billy Graham Crusade? No, you know you have passed
from death unto life because you come to church and “Mom” says,
“You have eternal life”? No, you know you have passed from death
unto life because you love one another and that is not
something you can accomplish on your own; it is in the genes
of Christ that as you are growing up in the measure of
it and the stature of it, you are coming to a point that if you
start yielding yourself to that new creation life that is in you,
out of you is now going to come a love that you didn’t have before.
That is why you can take a marriage outside of Christ that is completely
shipwrecked on the rocks, and when you bring Christ into that marriage,
God is able to raise up a love that you didn’t previously have there,
where you can actually love one another! God can miraculously put
it back together again, not based upon human experience or intellect,
or human counseling, but based upon a nature that He put
within you that is able to love, not for yourself anymore, but for
“Little Johnny” is two or three years old and “Mom” is telling him
how great he is and he loves being with “Mom”; all the attention
is around “Little Johnny” and he is convinced he has everything
made, because after all, “Little Johnny” is an heir. Aren’t you
an heir? All things are yours! But, since you have to attain
to what you have been apprehended for; there could be a little
bit of a problem here!
many of us remember that first day of school? It is called “corporate
life”. All of a sudden “Little Johnny” is going to find out there
is somebody else on the planet other than “Little Johnny” and Mom!
“Little Johnny” and Mom are both deceived in thinking that “Little
Johnny” is the greatest “Little Johnny” on the planet!
many of us just love corporate life?
How many of us loved corporate life when
we first got in it? How many of us were tugging on Mom’s dress as
she’s walking out the first grade classroom and we were crying,
“Don’t leave me!”
of a sudden you recognize something; this is transition! We are
getting out of being a baby and He wants to grow us up. As this
process goes, we see this in Ephesians, we take off one manner of
conversation, or way of life; there is a change in the renewing
of the mind; and we put on the next step that
God has for us. So when the little baby in diapers comes into the
experience where he is becoming a little child, he is going to take
off the diapers; there has to be a change in the renewing of the
“Little Johnny”, and he puts on toddlers clothes now, and he goes
to school with corporate life with a lot of other babies—and somehow
the Eternal God is going to bring us all together without killing
each other! It is just fortunate, when we are four years old, that
we don’t have the strength to do much damage.
what He wants to do now, is show us the next step of the love of
God; for what we are growing up into, is the love of God.
John 2:5 But whoso keepeth His word, in him verily is the love of
God perfected: (or matured – that word for perfected is to “mature”).
the love of God is maturing, it is taking on a different
characteristic in every different level. This is the way this works:
we are first going to love our brethren, then we are going to love
God and then we are going to love our enemies.
we have this understanding, that when we first get born again that
we have the ability to love our enemies so that we get this picture—if
I were in Germany in WWII and they came into a Christian church
with shotguns aimed at us, I would be the one that would say, “I
will give my life for all my brethren” and in that, I would be loving
my enemies. We have a vanity in our minds to believe that kind of
love has grown up in us, and God says, “Well, let’s see if you can
first love your brother.” I think, “I am willing to lay my life
down for my brother – shoot me with the firing squad!” But He puts
you into corporate life and says, “Now, lay your life down for one
another.” But then we think, “It would be a lot easier God—bring
the Germans, it would be a lot easier to stand before a firing squad!”
Because, these brethren that we come in contact with, all of a sudden
look like they are in competition!
the early years of corporate life, you almost hated to see another
family come for you knew it was going to have to be this assimilation
all over again of having to learn to love somebody. God has this
uncanny ability to put us together with people that are—as Brother
Buddy has said, ‘our perfecting agents.’
leads us to believe that He is leaving marriage in our hands because
He wants to show us what happens when we make our own
decisions. You take the highest possible relationship there is—marriage—and
He says, “I will let you choose whoever you want to marry.” He puts
that in you and then He puts it in her, and something happens and
you get together—sometimes it’s 3 weeks; sometimes it’s 3 months;
sometimes it’s 3 years or 3 minutes, when there is a big fight
that is going on and God says, “Well, I let you
remember that people would come to corporate life saying, “I just
can’t wait to get into corporate life! I just love to be with the
body—with the people! I just think it is so exciting!” They are
sending stuff there; all this stuff is coming. Then they get there
and you find you are running into a measure of a standard of a different
man than we had when we are carnal and we find out, “Hey, this isn’t
exactly the way I thought it was going to be!” How many of us remember
those days? It was nothing like we imagined it to be, because what
He is doing is growing us up into something and He set goals for
us, and He said the first goal is, ‘little children, love one another.’
had this woman in community—there is always one that sticks out—this
lady could not get along with anybody! Anybody you have ever talked
to about this lady and knows her says, “You are exactly right!”
Nothing was ever right; they didn’t do anything right and she had
to correct everything that was going on! She had this uncanny ability
to aggravate everybody! Every time the father ministry would come
through, she would be in an elders meeting! Those in the community
were asking, “Why don’t you guys (father ministry) do something
about it? We have this problem here; can’t you see what needs to
be done?” And meanwhile, what God is doing—He has this love that
He wants to grow in us so that we will be able to love one another,
before the other one changes! What we
want is to ‘love the lovely— it’s easy to love Brother
Roland, because he loves to fish and we can fish together!
watched this woman and I saw aggravation—aggravation—and aggravation,
and I was convinced that, not only did everyone else find they could
not get along with her, I was convinced she couldn’t get along with
herself! Did you ever see anybody like that? They are not happy
unless they are miserable! This went on for a long time; the father
ministry are not doing anything, God seemingly is not doing anything,
and meanwhile, what He is doing is growing up everyone around her
that are willing to come into an experience of understanding, where
the mind get’s renewed and one day you come to your senses and you
say, “Maybe the problem is not in her, maybe the problem is in me!”
What do you mean, the problem is in me? How could the problem
be in me? The problem is in me because I have a love in
me that is supposed to love the unloveliest and not seek
anything for myself. But what I would like is for her
to change the way that she
is so that I could get out of my
present distress! God says, “No, I have just brought
you into a new creation that has a love in it that I want to prove
under the most arduous, hardest—the worst situation possible!”
you wake up one day; three, four, five years down the road and she
is still there, still the thorn, and this family is loving her,
and that family is loving her, and this one is loving her and that
one is loving her and everybody is loving her—and she never changed!
God just brought us up into a step where now we know we have passed
from death unto life, because now we love the brethren and they
didn’t change – we changed!
John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and
everyone that loveth (the most
unlovely, that you never think you could)
is born of God;
day, you come into the realization that this new creation life is
great! He didn’t put us into corporate life to affect
the change; He put us into corporate life to reveal the
change! While we are there in corporate life, which God led us into—the
“Little Johnny” going to grade school, you coming into the body
of Christ, you being members of a body—He has us in this growth
ask this question, “Do you have to be in corporate life to have
this fulfilled in you?” I do not know about you, but it would never
happen if I didn’t. For me, I have to be in it; I’ve got to be there.
What He wants me to realize is that, when I was going to church
once a week, I had my own income, I had my own house, I had my own
wealth, I had my own family, I made all of my decisions—I was going
to that church believing I loved everybody in that church! I was
just happy to see them, happy to go play golf with them on Sundays,
to do whatever we did! If I believe that just my going to church
was evidence that I loved them, when I was completely running my
whole life, then God says, “Let’s test this in the body!”
He brings us into this experience where He wants to test
this very testimony that we have—that we are ‘born of God’— because
He knows what is there in us and He knows what is needed in us to
bring the maturity . He is the Father that is bringing us,
and there is a purpose , there is a plan , there
is an outworking of this, and we are coming to His
purpose in this, and His purpose is that we love each other
before the other one changes!
one day, we find ourselves loving and you turn around and you find
out she is changing! If you knew this lady today, you
would say, “You are not the same lady!” Everyone that knows her
evidence of everything God is doing is going to manifest in your
mortal body; everything God is doing will be manifest so that the
whole world can see. If I were to go to my community and I would
have everybody write down the strengths and weaknesses of John Basalyga
and then I were to write down the strengths and weaknesses of John
Basalyga, I would find that everybody in the community would generally
have the same list, and there would be my list that would be a little
bit different than everybody else’s. This is because we have the
uncanny ability to see ourselves a little different than what our
body is manifesting.
have been in situations in community where you have (hear me
right; in a balance, for I do not have anything against health foods;
I don’t eat any of them, but I don’t have any problem with them)
people that God is speaking to them not to put any sugar in
their coffee, and they can’t get along with anybody! God has spoken
to them to go on a “carrot diet” and they are living in strife,
division and envy; I go them and I say, “Let me see if I have this
straight, please tell me and show me where I am wrong here. The
Eternal God came out of the Eternal heavens and spoke to you to
eat tomatoes and carrots and take the sugar out, but He didn’t speak
to you to love your brother. Is that what you are trying to tell
me? I am not sure what God you are serving, for I deal with a God
who I think is going to tell me it is important to ‘love one another’
before I put away the sugar out of my coffee, as important as that
have these religious ideas and concepts of what this is all about
and God is trying to grow us up where there is evidence and a manifestation
of love, one for another, because love is the evidence of it! If
we say, “Oh I love God!” Well, nobody can love God whom they haven’t
seen until they can love their brother who they have seen! So He
puts us in together and says, “Now let it work!” He that loves is
‘born of God’ and that is the “little child” stage.
next stage this “little child” is going to go into is the “young
man” stage, so the apostle John says, ‘I write unto you, young men.’
We read in 1 John:
John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but
he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one
toucheth him not.
next stage we come into is where we are keeping His commandments,
and when you are keeping His commandments it is evidence that you
love God. So when John says in 1 John 4:20, ‘no man can love God
whom he has not seen if he can’t love his brother who he has seen’
he is not saying we are not called to come to a place where we are
actually loving God. What he is saying is that in the progression
of maturing, the first thing that is going to be manifest is that
we love our brother .
we are children, God will wink at the sin that still so easily besets
us, because He is not so much dealing with all of the intricacies
of the sin in our life, but He is dealing with this nature
that is within us that needs to be renewed to where we
are actually loving one another. This is what you see in I Corinthians
13 where Paul starts talking about “agape” love—the charity. As
babies and little children, God winked at our ignorance because
we were not yet manifesting that kind of love, for it had not yet
been perfected; it had not yet grown up to that.
has goals for us; the first goal that I think most of us have come
to, who has lived in community for any length of time, is that we
love one another. You see this around the world; you go into the
communities now and there is the large majority loving one another!
We have situations where people were just at odds and they now love
one another, and in some cases you have to actually remind them
that they didn’t love each other at one point!
Vanderhoof used an analogy one time that if someone was very angry
with him and hit him with a stick and knocked him down as he was
walking down the road, he said the next time he was getting close
to the brother, he would have a tendency to walk away from him.
If the brother came to him and apologized, and it was all right,
yet there would still be something in him that would react, ‘once
bit, twice shy’ for none of us really enjoy getting screamed at
by a brother; we have a tendency to “keep our guard”.
need to forgive; yes—we need to forgive, but there needs to be a
change in the attitude and manifestation in that person because
I can forgive you and the next thing, you come and hit me with a
stick again. How many times are we supposed to forgive, ‘70 times
7?’ That doesn’t mean hit me with a stick 70 times! I am going to
learn to avoid that. But God is
working as time goes by, and let’s say the guy doesn’t hit you with
a stick for a year, two or five years down the road; five years
down the road you may have to have somebody come and remind you,
“Do you remember the time that he hit you with the stick?” Then
I say, “No, I don’t even actually remember that.” Why? Because we
are growing up and we are loving one another; we are not holding
things against another for what happened 20 years ago.
has brought us into a maturity, realizing that we were all babies,
we were all little children. Now we are coming into a realm where
God says, “What I require of you is—do you love Me ?”
How do you show that you love Him ? ‘He that is born of
God, does not commit sin.’ How do you not commit sin? You
do what He tells you to do
. Therefore, you get into a hearing relationship with Him.
This hearing relationship is not a bunch of verbal words that are
being spoken, ad nauseam—“Do this! Don’t do that!” That is not the
way it works! There is a sensitivity to the Spirit—a sensitivity
to the Spirit that you know when you are pleasing God; and you know
when you are not pleasing God and when you get into that
realm. You grow into this sensitivity!
12 years old, you do not have the same sensitivity as when you are
18 years old—or you better not, for there better be a renewing of
your mind—because every step along the way, we are putting on
the new man and we are putting away the old! We
do this in successive growth patterns, therefore there has
to be a renewing of
the mind ! Most people quote that scripture, “Put off the old
man that is corrupt according to its deceitful lusts and put on
the new man” without putting what we read in the middle there, ‘
and be changed by the renewing of your mind’ .
The renewing of the mind is where the growth takes place in the
knowledge and the understanding of what God is doing, so now we
are putting on His mind and
we are putting off the carnal
mind. When you put off the carnal mind, you come into a way in which
the body starts to manifest a completely different life.
They that are after the flesh
do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit,
the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death;
but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
me ask you what you understand regarding the soul. Sometimes I think
we get this understanding—that the soul, which we are, has the ability
to manifest an identity by itself. But really, the soul is only
a servant in the house that can only manifest whatever
spirit it is yielding itself to. So if you yield yourself to the
Spirit of God, the soul will take on the characteristics of, and
be transformed by the Spirit of God; if your soul (your life) is
yielding itself to unclean spirits, then the soul will take on that
as well. The body will manifest whatever the soul is yielding itself
we come naturally into this world, we build up a characteristic
in our natural bodies, by the natural things that we do, which appears
to be our identity. And we “think” that is “us”! But this is only
a temporary experience. Is that “ you” eternally?
Is that your possession eternally? It had better not be!
we come into Christ, the same is true—what the body is now going
to manifest is an evidence of who you are yielding yourselves to
obey. Once we are born again, the mind that you have in your soul
can be either carnally minded or spiritually minded. The concept
that we have of a ‘double minded’ man is not correct. You are not
doubly minded; you are either carnally minded or spiritually
minded. To get into the place where you think you have both minds—those
people are in insane asylums for they can’t sort out the two.
we come into this experience, He wants us to see that the old creation
life had a carnal mind in it – the new creation life has a Spirit
mind in it; one is the mind of Christ and the other is the carnal
mind. He wants to bring the mind of the Spirit into our experience
in our soul so we are spiritually minded and follow after the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded
is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because
the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to
the law of God, neither indeed can be.
is why you will never believe that Jesus is the Christ with your
intellect and carnal mind; these have no power to keep you
at all . You will just use your belief as an “insurance
policy”. You go to church and you hear, “All you have to do is believe!”
Do you know that the devils believe? And they do not believe with
their hearts! The only difference between a “Christian” that has
no life of Christ in him and the devils, are that the
devils ‘tremble’ and the “Christians” do not.
So then they that are in
the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but
in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now
if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the
Spirit is life because of righteousness.
you were born again, was your body alive to you ? Yes,
your body was alive to you, but you were dead to God, so you lived
according to the dictates of the body. When the Spirit of God comes
in you, He cleanses you and puts His Spirit in you, He restores
the soul, and the body—though it was dead—not because the body sinned,
but because the soul sinned. When the soul sinned, it passed to
the body and the body became dead because of sin. God has this miraculous
way of saying, “Now, through the Spirit – if the Spirit abides,
I am going to be able to also quicken the mortal body.”
5:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead
dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also
quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
is your mortal body that He is able to quicken, by you now living
after the Spirit! If somebody knew you 20 years ago, when you were
in the flesh, and they know you today, if you have been walking
after the Spirit, they are going to say, “You are a whole new person!”
Your mortal body is now quickened to manifest a different life than
it was manifesting when it was dead in sin! God is saying, “Here
is the evidence of it; it is in your body!” That is why He keeps
us in this temporal body in this temporal realm; He says, “How do
you like this life now?”
will never be able to choose which life you want unless you have
access to know what both lives are! So we know what it is like to
be born into this world; we are born into a “hope of death”. When
we get born into Christ, we are begotten unto a ‘lively hope’ and
that lively hope ends in—‘he that is born of God, is now eternal’!
way He shows us this, is to give us that experience while we are
still in the temporal created realm. In the temporal
created realm, He brings us through the process whereby we are born
of God in the created realm, not as a possession but as an imputation,
to see if that is the life you want to live in for eternity
is a difference between being ‘born of God’ in the created realm
and being ‘born of God’ in the eternal realm . God
would never put us in an eternal position based upon someone else
choosing it for us. He wants us to choose. Eternal life
is not something that takes place when you get born again; eternal
life is something you get by sowing to the Spirit. ‘God will not
be mocked; whatsoever you sow, that shall you reap.’
flesh and blood, being born again, does not inherit eternal life.
You have to get into the resurrection to inherit eternal life. The
resurrection is something that gets “put on” , the same
way as the little baby puts on toddler clothes, then the toddler
puts on young man clothes and the young man puts on the father’s
clothes. You are also going to “put on” the resurrection by sowing
to the Spirit. It will be the last stage in the development of us
coming into an eternal purpose, because it was worked out according
to God’s plan and purpose. We will have come to the measure of the
fullness of the stature of Christ—not by our own workings—but by
us simply growing up the same way a natural man simply grows up
and does what the father says to do. The natural is such an easy
example to see how this works.
last stage in this temporal existence is found in I John 3.
John 3: 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; (that
is the young man stage) for his seed remaineth in him: and
he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Jesus was growing up in the measure of the stature and He was going
through all these transitional periods, there are two points I want
to make here.
#1—Where is the ultimate government that God is looking for in His
sons? Is it external or internal? Internal; if it is internal, what
is it? It is the Spirit of God, for all the sons are led by the
Spirit. Before we get to that point, what God provides for us, is
ministries—fathers and mothers to teach us and keep us in the way,
to not only be there as an example, but as one that is raising us
the process of transition into these different growths, when someone
is in the age range of 16-22, the transition of going from a young
man into a father is a very uncomfortable transition, not only for
the young man, but also for the parents. And generally speaking,
which of the two has the hardest time seeing the growth, the children
or the parents? The parents.
is sad to say, but some never grow from the stage of being a “young
man” into a “father”. If God is ever going to grow us up, we must
understand what it is to be led by the Spirit ourselves! It is the
Father’s good pleasure to give us the kingdom! When we come into
an understanding of maturity, we are not only in great jeopardy,
but also in great hope! With great jeopardy comes great hope, and
with great hope comes great jeopardy and the closer we get to this,
we realize that God wants to hand this over to us. God wanted to
hand it over to Jesus, but God is not going to hand it over to Jesus
until He proves Himself in these successive stages; He has to go
through being under tutors and governors; He has got to learn obedience.
# 2—But there comes a day in which He is going to come out from
underneath His natural parents and the natural government that God
put there. When God is ready to transition Him to be led completely
by the Spirit, He is going to come to the previous government that
was in His life and He is going to say to her, “Woman, what do I
have to do with you?”
we read that, it looks hard. What was happening there was a change
of government taking place in His life, to grow the son up
to where God could prove Him with the things that belong to Him,
to see if He would stay in the place where He is still not seeking
anything of His own, but only what the Father had. That is a hard
place—that is a very hard place.
of us that have had children grow up—when is it that you want to
release him? In some cases you never want to release them. You find
that, as they are growing up, the ‘renewed mind’ in the 18 year
old is, “I have come to the place now, where I should be able to
have my own car and drive it whenever I want to; I should be able
to go where I want to, however I want to.” In their mind, they are
growing up to believe they are coming into their own, but they have
never connected the fact that Dad still pays for the gas and Dad
still pays for the car! In this transition, there needs to be a
working together with Dad and Mom and your desire to want to show
yourself mature! Does that identify with everybody? Yes! There has
to be this “working together”, because if Mom and Dad were the only
government in our life, telling us what to do when we were five
years old, and are still doing it when we are 35 years old, something
is drastically wrong!
remember when my first daughter, Sharalyn, went out the door to
college; this girl has in her the ability to do everything from
“know God” to “I do not know what is going to go on with
her!” There came a day when she was going to college and I had to
believe that the Spirit of God had been working in her for the past
18 years, so that I did not stop the development of the maturity
in her and so that she could see what is in her.
we, as elders, continue to keep “the order” as evidence that we
have a “good”, “ordered” and “well run” community, and God —
and God — and God wants to pull
it back a little bit; do not be afraid that what you are going to
see is something that you don’t want to see! Trust
that what you have been teaching them is in their hearts and is
going to come out of them, so that when you take “the order” down,
now they can rejoice in their own! This is a hard step—a hard
see a transition coming. We used to hear, “I’m going to be led by
the Spirit! Who are you to tell me what to do?” That was rebellion!
‘Every man did what was right in his own eyes’ and that was rebellion!
Now we are coming to a point where there is submissiveness; we are
loving one another; we are doing these things and God wants to take
us on to a different step.
is going to take Jesus out of that experience where He was under
His Father and mother and under tutors and governors. God kept Him
under them for a while. And now God said, “I’m going to give you
a little bit of power”; and Mom, stand out of the way, because if
you don’t, I would hate to see what would happen! This is a hard
lesson to learn.
are dealing with an eternal God who is taking us on to the fullness
of the measure of the stature of Christ; He is taking us on to perfection.
There is not going to be any external ministry that is
going to stand in the way of this thing! If you do and if I do,
we are standing in the way!
look at Sharalyn today and it was hard when she wanted to become
a scaler who measures wood. She went down to southern Ontario for
schooling. She came back after she had learned scaling and I saw
pictures of her rappelling down the side of a 200-foot cliff! “Sharalyn!”
She could have come home all broken in a box! “What are you doing
out there?” Dad wasn’t around to tell her, “Don’t do that!” “Do
this!” “Don’t do that!” I found I was thinking, “Let them go! Let
them go! Let’s see what’s in them!”
men here at this convention—I tell you that I so appreciate these
fathers! Brother Buddy and I are like father and son and we know
the relationship. In all the years when this “kid” was telling “Dad”,
“I’m ready! I’m ready!” Challenging “Dad”! He kept saying, “Keep
yourself. Keep yourself.” At some point, I think both of us woke
up and realized that maybe the “kid” grew up a little bit.
there is not seen a manifestation of growing into maturity, the
relationship will always continue to stay in a baby and child relationship
and you will never let them go on to fulfill what God has for them.
The very thing that you think you are doing to protect the life,
you are stopping it!
work with the child and say, “OK, you can have the car but you are
going to put in 50 percent of the gas.” They say, “Oh! You mean
there’s some responsibility that I have in this thing?” Yes, the
responsibility that you have is ‘he that hath this hope in himself’—let
the elders purify him? No! Let him purify himself
can all identify with this because we have all been there either
on the child end or the parent end. We’ve all been there!
that is born of God, first, has the witness in Himself; then he
that is born of God, loves; because he that loveth is born of God.
Then he that loveth goes into the second stage because he keeps
himself and he does not sin; he is keeping the Father’s commandments.
Now Jesus is going to come for 3 ½ years into an abiding relationship
with His Father where He cannot sin because He is born of God.
need to hear that by the Spirit because I am not saying
that there was not a way in which He could have been drawn out and
tested and tempted because of that carnal nature that was in His
flesh. You cannot take this scripture, ‘He that believeth is born
of God’ in this created realm and not follow it through with, ‘The
seed that abideth and remain cannot sin because he is born of God’.
You cannot take the beginning and the end and apply one scripture
to this created realm and the other scripture to the eternal realm.
It all applies to this created realm.
have to see that there is an abiding relationship that you can come
into with the Father Jesus; Jesus is actually our Father.
Basalyga was asked to go over this again and he continued…)
comes a time after you are loving one another and after
you are keeping His commandments that you know to be His commandments
to you , that you come into an abiding relationship with
Christ; you know Him on this side of the resurrection.
got to the end of his life and he said, “I have fought the fight;
I kept the faith.” He was not sinning. If you are in an abiding
relationship with God, can you sin? No, you cannot, if
you are in an abiding relationship ! Keep yourself!
Keep yourself! There is no sin in Christ .
you are a little child and a baby, you are going in and out; you
are going in and out; when you’re a young man, you’re going in and
out; you’re going in and out. That is why in this growth process,
we are encouraging each other and we are not deluded! What does
the scripture say? ‘…not as Gentiles in the vanity of their mind.’
We do not think we are somewhere where we are not!
in 1 John it says:
John 2:13(c)-14(a) ‘I write unto you little children, because ye
have known the Father. I have written unto you, fathers, because
ye have known him that is from the beginning.’
is ‘Him that is from the beginning? That is Christ! ‘That I might
know Him in the power of His resurrection; being
made conformable unto His death’. This is the last stage
in this life that we are going to come to, when we find out that
there is an abiding relationship that I can be in; not only with
Him; this abiding relationship will also put me in the same relationship
with others who are in that same abiding relationship. That is a
great place to be!
that place, do you know what God is able to do? He is able to let
us disagree with one another on a doctrinal level and still keep
the love of God and still not sin! We are able to do that in God!
At that point, you can love your enemies, because I am required
to do what He was required to do and that is, give yourself to a
world that could care less about anything that God wants to do!
Now you have laid your life down for your brethren. As He laid down
His life for us, now we lay our life down for the brethren.
brings us into this maturity—this abiding relationship—and we say,
“This is a great experience!” When Jesus got to this maturity, we
recognize that what He needed to do was to obtain that abiding relationship
as an eternal inheritance where it was actually His
possession . Because ‘now beloved are we the sons
of God, but it doth not yet appear what we shall be’. Right now
it has all been imputed to us and we are manifesting that growth
in our lives as we go along. All He wants us to do is be honest
where you are .
you say, “God, I’m still a babe,” when we get to the end of this
thing, it says, “Woe unto them that are with child and give suck.”
You better start growing up! It’s time for the children to become
men; it’s time for the men to become fathers!
said in Hebrews 6, ‘We are going on into perfection.’ In so doing,
we are going to leave some behind, because we can’t continue and
continue to lay the principles of the doctrine of Christ if we are
going to fulfill this thing.
are hearing a word today that says we are in transition and we are
going into places where no man has ever been before as a body of
people. There have been singular ones who have done this along the
way, but God has never done this in a company or body of people.
We know that we are getting close because it is being witnessed
in a body of people who God is bringing in. They have a relationship
that is not based upon carnal understanding with each other, but
a relationship that is based on a living, vibrant relationship with
Him and we are actually growing up; we are actually growing
up to be fathers.
exciting that is! How exciting to preach this to a group of people
and they know what you are talking about. The eyes light up! “I
know what you are saying!” This sure takes it out of the realm where
“all I have to do is believe that Jesus died for my sins and I have
we have hope only in this life, we are of all men most miserable!
We have a resurrection that we are looking forward to, as we are
being planted in the same kind of death as Christ. The world looks
and says, “What a waste for Jesus, after 3 ½ years, to go to the
cross!” And this was the very thing that actually brought us into
what we are standing in today!
He hadn’t done that, we could not be here today, as He is a father
who is bringing forth many sons just like Him and growing us up
into that same nature. It was predetermined when you were born again,
that you are going to be just like Him. You are not fulfilling this
thing on your own; you are just coming into the different steps
of growth that God had prepared for you from the foundation of the
a great heavenly Father, He is saying, “I’ve brought you
through “that” and you are loving; I brought you through “that”
and you are growing!” He that began the work can finish it and He
can take us right into the ‘eternal weight of glory’ where we are
born of God! Then we will be there where we can never sin because
it will be our eternal possession!
Thank You, God! That I might
know Him! That I might know Him! Not that I have already attained
or already made perfect, but I follow on to know Him as I am even